Growing up in the Christian church can sometimes feel oppressive.  There is a tremendous amount of sex-shaming, and frankly, a focus on sex.  You are often told that sex is horrible and sinful, but then grow up and get married and expect to have a positive attitude towards sexuality.  In this episode, Michael and Kumar speak to John, a former pastor, now involved in a polyamory relationship.  They delve into his journey from being an "upstanding Christian minister" to developing an open view on sexuality and relationships.  This episode is not intended for listeners under 18.  Listen to the full-length conversation with John on the BONUS episode also available.